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iPhone Support in Banshee

Jan Hofmann
Hello everyone,

Why is there no iPhone Support in banshee? The iPhone actually IS working with libgpod. It is working with Amarok or gtkpod.

So, in Amarok, there is an option to add an media player manually by giving the path to it (eg. /media/iPhone) and set the device to "iphone" and then you can put on music to the iPhone with amarok.

Would be so nice, if banshee would be able to do that too.

regards, Jan

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Re: iPhone Support in Banshee

Sandy Armstrong
http://banshee-project.org/support/faq/
http://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=506537

On Sat, Apr 18, 2009 at 8:08 AM, Jan Hofmann <[hidden email]> wrote:

> Hello everyone,
>
> Why is there no iPhone Support in banshee? The iPhone actually IS working
> with libgpod. It is working with Amarok or gtkpod.
>
> So, in Amarok, there is an option to add an media player manually by giving
> the path to it (eg. /media/iPhone) and set the device to "iphone" and then
> you can put on music to the iPhone with amarok.
>
> Would be so nice, if banshee would be able to do that too.
>
> regards, Jan
>
> _______________________________________________
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Re: iPhone Support in Banshee

Jan Hofmann
Hi Sandy,

yes, i have read those two texts, but as you can see in the comments (and i sync Music to my iPhone every day), it is actually posible to sync music to the iphone and to listen to it on the iphone. And libgpod can read and write the Database, when you set the Database Version from 4 to 2. on your jailbroken iphone. I guess, that banshee uses libgpod too and the only Problem is, that the iPhone did not register in the System as iPod, so banshee does not know that there is one. But if there would be a possibility to tell banshee where the iPhone is, or where the path to the iPhone ist, it should work like an iPod, like Amarok actually does!

bye, Jan

2009/4/18 Sandy Armstrong <[hidden email]>
http://banshee-project.org/support/faq/
http://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=506537

On Sat, Apr 18, 2009 at 8:08 AM, Jan Hofmann <[hidden email]> wrote:
> Hello everyone,
>
> Why is there no iPhone Support in banshee? The iPhone actually IS working
> with libgpod. It is working with Amarok or gtkpod.
>
> So, in Amarok, there is an option to add an media player manually by giving
> the path to it (eg. /media/iPhone) and set the device to "iphone" and then
> you can put on music to the iPhone with amarok.
>
> Would be so nice, if banshee would be able to do that too.
>
> regards, Jan
>
> _______________________________________________
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> [hidden email]
> http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/banshee-list
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>
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Re: iPhone Support in Banshee

yaa
> I guess, that banshee uses libgpod too

No, it doesn't.


On Sat, Apr 18, 2009 at 21:28, Jan Hofmann <[hidden email]> wrote:

> Hi Sandy,
>
> yes, i have read those two texts, but as you can see in the comments (and i
> sync Music to my iPhone every day), it is actually posible to sync music to
> the iphone and to listen to it on the iphone. And libgpod can read and write
> the Database, when you set the Database Version from 4 to 2. on your
> jailbroken iphone. I guess, that banshee uses libgpod too and the only
> Problem is, that the iPhone did not register in the System as iPod, so
> banshee does not know that there is one. But if there would be a possibility
> to tell banshee where the iPhone is, or where the path to the iPhone ist, it
> should work like an iPod, like Amarok actually does!
>
> bye, Jan
>
> 2009/4/18 Sandy Armstrong <[hidden email]>
>>
>> http://banshee-project.org/support/faq/
>> http://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=506537
>>
>> On Sat, Apr 18, 2009 at 8:08 AM, Jan Hofmann <[hidden email]>
>> wrote:
>> > Hello everyone,
>> >
>> > Why is there no iPhone Support in banshee? The iPhone actually IS
>> > working
>> > with libgpod. It is working with Amarok or gtkpod.
>> >
>> > So, in Amarok, there is an option to add an media player manually by
>> > giving
>> > the path to it (eg. /media/iPhone) and set the device to "iphone" and
>> > then
>> > you can put on music to the iPhone with amarok.
>> >
>> > Would be so nice, if banshee would be able to do that too.
>> >
>> > regards, Jan
>> >
>> > _______________________________________________
>> > banshee-list mailing list
>> > [hidden email]
>> > http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/banshee-list
>> >
>> >
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>
>
>
> --
> Gruß, Jan
>
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Re: iPhone Support in Banshee

Jan Hofmann-2
Oh, ok. Next question: why not? :) and which library is in use?

Jan

Am 18.04.2009 um 21:30 schrieb Yves Alter <[hidden email]>:

>> I guess, that banshee uses libgpod too
>
> No, it doesn't.
>
>
> On Sat, Apr 18, 2009 at 21:28, Jan Hofmann <[hidden email]>  
> wrote:
>> Hi Sandy,
>>
>> yes, i have read those two texts, but as you can see in the  
>> comments (and i
>> sync Music to my iPhone every day), it is actually posible to sync  
>> music to
>> the iphone and to listen to it on the iphone. And libgpod can read  
>> and write
>> the Database, when you set the Database Version from 4 to 2. on your
>> jailbroken iphone. I guess, that banshee uses libgpod too and the  
>> only
>> Problem is, that the iPhone did not register in the System as iPod,  
>> so
>> banshee does not know that there is one. But if there would be a  
>> possibility
>> to tell banshee where the iPhone is, or where the path to the  
>> iPhone ist, it
>> should work like an iPod, like Amarok actually does!
>>
>> bye, Jan
>>
>> 2009/4/18 Sandy Armstrong <[hidden email]>
>>>
>>> http://banshee-project.org/support/faq/
>>> http://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=506537
>>>
>>> On Sat, Apr 18, 2009 at 8:08 AM, Jan Hofmann <[hidden email]
>>> >
>>> wrote:
>>>> Hello everyone,
>>>>
>>>> Why is there no iPhone Support in banshee? The iPhone actually IS
>>>> working
>>>> with libgpod. It is working with Amarok or gtkpod.
>>>>
>>>> So, in Amarok, there is an option to add an media player manually  
>>>> by
>>>> giving
>>>> the path to it (eg. /media/iPhone) and set the device to "iphone"  
>>>> and
>>>> then
>>>> you can put on music to the iPhone with amarok.
>>>>
>>>> Would be so nice, if banshee would be able to do that too.
>>>>
>>>> regards, Jan
>>>>
>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>> banshee-list mailing list
>>>> [hidden email]
>>>> http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/banshee-list
>>>>
>>>>
>>> _______________________________________________
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>>
>>
>>
>> --
>> Gruß, Jan
>>
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Re: iPhone Support in Banshee

gregor2005
hi,

im also interesting in sync my iphone with banshee
yesterday i found this blog-entry: http://ingvar.blog.linpro.no/2010/01/05/syncing-your-iphone-media-database-os-3-x-from-fedora-12/
it works perfect to sync my iphone with gtkpod :-)
when i start banshee in the shell i get these error:
Caught an exception – System.Exception: org.freedesktop.Hal.NoSuchDevice: No device with id /org/freedesktop/Hal/devices/usb_device_ffffffff_ffffffff_noserial (in `NDesk.DBus.Proxies’)

i hope that somebody can help.
when i need to turn some switches thats only available on an jailbroken phone that shouldn't be the problem.

greetings from austria
gregor

Jan Hofmann-2 wrote
Oh, ok. Next question: why not? :) and which library is in use?

Jan

Am 18.04.2009 um 21:30 schrieb Yves Alter <altery@ethz.ch>:

>> I guess, that banshee uses libgpod too
>
> No, it doesn't.
>
>
> On Sat, Apr 18, 2009 at 21:28, Jan Hofmann <hofmann@virtualpixel.de> 
> wrote:
>> Hi Sandy,
>>
>> yes, i have read those two texts, but as you can see in the  
>> comments (and i
>> sync Music to my iPhone every day), it is actually posible to sync  
>> music to
>> the iphone and to listen to it on the iphone. And libgpod can read  
>> and write
>> the Database, when you set the Database Version from 4 to 2. on your
>> jailbroken iphone. I guess, that banshee uses libgpod too and the  
>> only
>> Problem is, that the iPhone did not register in the System as iPod,  
>> so
>> banshee does not know that there is one. But if there would be a  
>> possibility
>> to tell banshee where the iPhone is, or where the path to the  
>> iPhone ist, it
>> should work like an iPod, like Amarok actually does!
>>
>> bye, Jan
>>
>> 2009/4/18 Sandy Armstrong <sanfordarmstrong@gmail.com>
>>>
>>> http://banshee-project.org/support/faq/
>>> http://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=506537
>>>
>>> On Sat, Apr 18, 2009 at 8:08 AM, Jan Hofmann <hofmann@virtualpixel.de
>>> >
>>> wrote:
>>>> Hello everyone,
>>>>
>>>> Why is there no iPhone Support in banshee? The iPhone actually IS
>>>> working
>>>> with libgpod. It is working with Amarok or gtkpod.
>>>>
>>>> So, in Amarok, there is an option to add an media player manually  
>>>> by
>>>> giving
>>>> the path to it (eg. /media/iPhone) and set the device to "iphone"  
>>>> and
>>>> then
>>>> you can put on music to the iPhone with amarok.
>>>>
>>>> Would be so nice, if banshee would be able to do that too.
>>>>
>>>> regards, Jan
>>>>
>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>> banshee-list mailing list
>>>> banshee-list@gnome.org
>>>> http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/banshee-list
>>>>
>>>>
>>> _______________________________________________
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>>> banshee-list@gnome.org
>>> http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/banshee-list
>>>
>>
>>
>>
>> --
>> Gruß, Jan
>>
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Re: iPhone Support in Banshee

Daniel Hughes
What seems to be required is c# bindings for libimobiledevice. This
would allow iphone and ipod touch support without needing to
jailbreak. This is what how the default file browser in ubuntu is able
to support iphone and ipod.

However no one has created c# bindings for libimobiledevice. The
banshee teams does not want to create and maintain these bindings (it
has come up before on this list). And you can be sure that no one else
is going to do it.

Unless someone steps up and creates the bindings then your just stiff
out of luck. As much as I hate to say it use rhythm box because
banshee refuses to support you.

And before someone says why don't I do it. Well if someone wants to
donate me an iphone then I will be happy to.

On Mon, May 24, 2010 at 7:47 PM, gregor2005 <[hidden email]> wrote:

>
> hi,
>
> im also interesting in sync my iphone with banshee
> yesterday i found this blog-entry:
> http://ingvar.blog.linpro.no/2010/01/05/syncing-your-iphone-media-database-os-3-x-from-fedora-12/
> it works perfect to sync my iphone with gtkpod :-)
> when i start banshee in the shell i get these error:
> Caught an exception – System.Exception: org.freedesktop.Hal.NoSuchDevice: No
> device with id
> /org/freedesktop/Hal/devices/usb_device_ffffffff_ffffffff_noserial (in
> `NDesk.DBus.Proxies’)
>
> i hope that somebody can help.
> when i need to turn some switches thats only available on an jailbroken
> phone that shouldn't be the problem.
>
> greetings from austria
> gregor
>
>
> Jan Hofmann-2 wrote:
>>
>> Oh, ok. Next question: why not? :) and which library is in use?
>>
>> Jan
>>
>> Am 18.04.2009 um 21:30 schrieb Yves Alter <[hidden email]>:
>>
>>>> I guess, that banshee uses libgpod too
>>>
>>> No, it doesn't.
>>>
>>>
>>> On Sat, Apr 18, 2009 at 21:28, Jan Hofmann <[hidden email]>
>>> wrote:
>>>> Hi Sandy,
>>>>
>>>> yes, i have read those two texts, but as you can see in the
>>>> comments (and i
>>>> sync Music to my iPhone every day), it is actually posible to sync
>>>> music to
>>>> the iphone and to listen to it on the iphone. And libgpod can read
>>>> and write
>>>> the Database, when you set the Database Version from 4 to 2. on your
>>>> jailbroken iphone. I guess, that banshee uses libgpod too and the
>>>> only
>>>> Problem is, that the iPhone did not register in the System as iPod,
>>>> so
>>>> banshee does not know that there is one. But if there would be a
>>>> possibility
>>>> to tell banshee where the iPhone is, or where the path to the
>>>> iPhone ist, it
>>>> should work like an iPod, like Amarok actually does!
>>>>
>>>> bye, Jan
>>>>
>>>> 2009/4/18 Sandy Armstrong <[hidden email]>
>>>>>
>>>>> http://banshee-project.org/support/faq/
>>>>> http://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=506537
>>>>>
>>>>> On Sat, Apr 18, 2009 at 8:08 AM, Jan Hofmann <[hidden email]
>>>>> >
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>> Hello everyone,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Why is there no iPhone Support in banshee? The iPhone actually IS
>>>>>> working
>>>>>> with libgpod. It is working with Amarok or gtkpod.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> So, in Amarok, there is an option to add an media player manually
>>>>>> by
>>>>>> giving
>>>>>> the path to it (eg. /media/iPhone) and set the device to "iphone"
>>>>>> and
>>>>>> then
>>>>>> you can put on music to the iPhone with amarok.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Would be so nice, if banshee would be able to do that too.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> regards, Jan
>>>>>>
>>>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>>>> banshee-list mailing list
>>>>>> [hidden email]
>>>>>> http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/banshee-list
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>> _______________________________________________
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>>>>> http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/banshee-list
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> --
>>>> Gruß, Jan
>>>>
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>>>>
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Re: iPhone Support in Banshee

Alan McGovern-2
Alternatively bindings to libgpod should do the same job. It's not  
that the banshee team, or anyone, doesn't want to support iPhones,  
iPods, ipads. It's just they're an incredible burden to support and  
the next apple firmware update could easily lock out 3rd party  
software for months again. That doesn't make it sound like a great  
idea to invest days/weeks in enhancing support or them

Alan.

On 25 May 2010, at 08:20, Daniel Hughes <[hidden email]> wrote:

> What seems to be required is c# bindings for libimobiledevice. This
> would allow iphone and ipod touch support without needing to
> jailbreak. This is what how the default file browser in ubuntu is able
> to support iphone and ipod.
>
> However no one has created c# bindings for libimobiledevice. The
> banshee teams does not want to create and maintain these bindings (it
> has come up before on this list). And you can be sure that no one else
> is going to do it.
>
> Unless someone steps up and creates the bindings then your just stiff
> out of luck. As much as I hate to say it use rhythm box because
> banshee refuses to support you.
>
> And before someone says why don't I do it. Well if someone wants to
> donate me an iphone then I will be happy to.
>
> On Mon, May 24, 2010 at 7:47 PM, gregor2005 <[hidden email]>  
> wrote:
>>
>> hi,
>>
>> im also interesting in sync my iphone with banshee
>> yesterday i found this blog-entry:
>> http://ingvar.blog.linpro.no/2010/01/05/syncing-your-iphone-media-database-os-3-x-from-fedora-12/
>> it works perfect to sync my iphone with gtkpod :-)
>> when i start banshee in the shell i get these error:
>> Caught an exception – System.Exception: org.freedesktop.Hal.NoSuch
>> Device: No
>> device with id
>> /org/freedesktop/Hal/devices/usb_device_ffffffff_ffffffff_noserial  
>> (in
>> `NDesk.DBus.Proxies’)
>>
>> i hope that somebody can help.
>> when i need to turn some switches thats only available on an  
>> jailbroken
>> phone that shouldn't be the problem.
>>
>> greetings from austria
>> gregor
>>
>>
>> Jan Hofmann-2 wrote:
>>>
>>> Oh, ok. Next question: why not? :) and which library is in use?
>>>
>>> Jan
>>>
>>> Am 18.04.2009 um 21:30 schrieb Yves Alter <[hidden email]>:
>>>
>>>>> I guess, that banshee uses libgpod too
>>>>
>>>> No, it doesn't.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Sat, Apr 18, 2009 at 21:28, Jan Hofmann  
>>>> <[hidden email]>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>> Hi Sandy,
>>>>>
>>>>> yes, i have read those two texts, but as you can see in the
>>>>> comments (and i
>>>>> sync Music to my iPhone every day), it is actually posible to sync
>>>>> music to
>>>>> the iphone and to listen to it on the iphone. And libgpod can read
>>>>> and write
>>>>> the Database, when you set the Database Version from 4 to 2. on  
>>>>> your
>>>>> jailbroken iphone. I guess, that banshee uses libgpod too and the
>>>>> only
>>>>> Problem is, that the iPhone did not register in the System as  
>>>>> iPod,
>>>>> so
>>>>> banshee does not know that there is one. But if there would be a
>>>>> possibility
>>>>> to tell banshee where the iPhone is, or where the path to the
>>>>> iPhone ist, it
>>>>> should work like an iPod, like Amarok actually does!
>>>>>
>>>>> bye, Jan
>>>>>
>>>>> 2009/4/18 Sandy Armstrong <[hidden email]>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> http://banshee-project.org/support/faq/
>>>>>> http://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=506537
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Sat, Apr 18, 2009 at 8:08 AM, Jan Hofmann <[hidden email]
>>>>>>>
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>> Hello everyone,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Why is there no iPhone Support in banshee? The iPhone actually  
>>>>>>> IS
>>>>>>> working
>>>>>>> with libgpod. It is working with Amarok or gtkpod.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> So, in Amarok, there is an option to add an media player  
>>>>>>> manually
>>>>>>> by
>>>>>>> giving
>>>>>>> the path to it (eg. /media/iPhone) and set the device to  
>>>>>>> "iphone"
>>>>>>> and
>>>>>>> then
>>>>>>> you can put on music to the iPhone with amarok.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Would be so nice, if banshee would be able to do that too.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> regards, Jan
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>>>>> banshee-list mailing list
>>>>>>> [hidden email]
>>>>>>> http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/banshee-list
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
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>>>>>> http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/banshee-list
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> --
>>>>> Gruß, Jan
>>>>>
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>>>>>
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Re: iPhone Support in Banshee

Daniel Hughes
According the libgpod site.

"There's also preliminary support for the iPhone and the iPod Touch
but they must be jailbroken to work. You'll find more details in the
NEWS file."

It seems that libgpod requires you to jailbreak your phone.
libimobiledevice does not.

As far as it not being worth the effort, Nautilus and RythemBox both
seem to disagree and have implemented support for iphone and ipod
touch.

On Tue, May 25, 2010 at 8:14 PM, Alan McGovern <[hidden email]> wrote:

> Alternatively bindings to libgpod should do the same job. It's not that the
> banshee team, or anyone, doesn't want to support iPhones, iPods, ipads. It's
> just they're an incredible burden to support and the next apple firmware
> update could easily lock out 3rd party software for months again. That
> doesn't make it sound like a great idea to invest days/weeks in enhancing
> support or them
>
> Alan.
>
> On 25 May 2010, at 08:20, Daniel Hughes <[hidden email]> wrote:
>
>> What seems to be required is c# bindings for libimobiledevice. This
>> would allow iphone and ipod touch support without needing to
>> jailbreak. This is what how the default file browser in ubuntu is able
>> to support iphone and ipod.
>>
>> However no one has created c# bindings for libimobiledevice. The
>> banshee teams does not want to create and maintain these bindings (it
>> has come up before on this list). And you can be sure that no one else
>> is going to do it.
>>
>> Unless someone steps up and creates the bindings then your just stiff
>> out of luck. As much as I hate to say it use rhythm box because
>> banshee refuses to support you.
>>
>> And before someone says why don't I do it. Well if someone wants to
>> donate me an iphone then I will be happy to.
>>
>> On Mon, May 24, 2010 at 7:47 PM, gregor2005 <[hidden email]> wrote:
>>>
>>> hi,
>>>
>>> im also interesting in sync my iphone with banshee
>>> yesterday i found this blog-entry:
>>>
>>> http://ingvar.blog.linpro.no/2010/01/05/syncing-your-iphone-media-database-os-3-x-from-fedora-12/
>>> it works perfect to sync my iphone with gtkpod :-)
>>> when i start banshee in the shell i get these error:
>>> Caught an exception – System.Exception: org.freedesktop.Hal.NoSuchDevice:
>>> No
>>> device with id
>>> /org/freedesktop/Hal/devices/usb_device_ffffffff_ffffffff_noserial (in
>>> `NDesk.DBus.Proxies’)
>>>
>>> i hope that somebody can help.
>>> when i need to turn some switches thats only available on an jailbroken
>>> phone that shouldn't be the problem.
>>>
>>> greetings from austria
>>> gregor
>>>
>>>
>>> Jan Hofmann-2 wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Oh, ok. Next question: why not? :) and which library is in use?
>>>>
>>>> Jan
>>>>
>>>> Am 18.04.2009 um 21:30 schrieb Yves Alter <[hidden email]>:
>>>>
>>>>>> I guess, that banshee uses libgpod too
>>>>>
>>>>> No, it doesn't.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On Sat, Apr 18, 2009 at 21:28, Jan Hofmann <[hidden email]>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Hi Sandy,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> yes, i have read those two texts, but as you can see in the
>>>>>> comments (and i
>>>>>> sync Music to my iPhone every day), it is actually posible to sync
>>>>>> music to
>>>>>> the iphone and to listen to it on the iphone. And libgpod can read
>>>>>> and write
>>>>>> the Database, when you set the Database Version from 4 to 2. on your
>>>>>> jailbroken iphone. I guess, that banshee uses libgpod too and the
>>>>>> only
>>>>>> Problem is, that the iPhone did not register in the System as iPod,
>>>>>> so
>>>>>> banshee does not know that there is one. But if there would be a
>>>>>> possibility
>>>>>> to tell banshee where the iPhone is, or where the path to the
>>>>>> iPhone ist, it
>>>>>> should work like an iPod, like Amarok actually does!
>>>>>>
>>>>>> bye, Jan
>>>>>>
>>>>>> 2009/4/18 Sandy Armstrong <[hidden email]>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> http://banshee-project.org/support/faq/
>>>>>>> http://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=506537
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Sat, Apr 18, 2009 at 8:08 AM, Jan Hofmann <[hidden email]
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Hello everyone,
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Why is there no iPhone Support in banshee? The iPhone actually IS
>>>>>>>> working
>>>>>>>> with libgpod. It is working with Amarok or gtkpod.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> So, in Amarok, there is an option to add an media player manually
>>>>>>>> by
>>>>>>>> giving
>>>>>>>> the path to it (eg. /media/iPhone) and set the device to "iphone"
>>>>>>>> and
>>>>>>>> then
>>>>>>>> you can put on music to the iPhone with amarok.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Would be so nice, if banshee would be able to do that too.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> regards, Jan
>>>>>>>>
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>>>>>>
>>>>>> --
>>>>>> Gruß, Jan
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Re: iPhone Support in Banshee

Roderich Schupp
On Tue, May 25, 2010 at 10:28 AM, Daniel Hughes <[hidden email]> wrote:
> According the libgpod site.
>
> "There's also preliminary support for the iPhone and the iPod Touch
> but they must be jailbroken to work. You'll find more details in the
> NEWS file."
>
> It seems that libgpod requires you to jailbreak your phone.
> libimobiledevice does not.

That's obsolete information.

> As far as it not being worth the effort, Nautilus and RythemBox both
> seem to disagree and have implemented support for iphone and ipod
> touch.

... for some value of "support". For example, Nautilus just lets you mount
the "visible" portion of the iphone filesystem using libimobiledevice.
So this gets us back to the days of early ipods that simply could be treated
as a kind of glorified USB drive. BTW, current libgpod uses libimobiledevice
for that purpose, too.

The other half of support needed to manage your music collection on the iphone
is to read and update the iTunes.db file. For that you (a) have to
know the firmware
version of the iphone (because the structure of the iTunes.db varies with it)
and (b) have re-engineered the correct way to update it.
AFAIK, libgpod does all that, but the suggestion to create c# bindings for it
(search the list archives) so that Banshee may use it seems to have
gotten nowhere.
And even if someone created these bindings, someone will have to convert
Banshee's ipod support from libipod/podsleuth to libgpod.

Whining won't get you there, only code will.

Cheers, Roderich
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Re: iPhone Support in Banshee

Daniel Hughes
Thanks for the update I guess their website needs updating.

As I have pointed out in order to create this code and have any
confidence that it works you need to have a iphone to test on. I do
not have one. I have experience making c# wrappers for native code but
it would be very difficult to create working c# bindings without
having the hardware.

What is needed is for a developer who has the hardware to step up and
do the work.

On Tue, May 25, 2010 at 9:02 PM, Roderich Schupp
<[hidden email]> wrote:

> On Tue, May 25, 2010 at 10:28 AM, Daniel Hughes <[hidden email]> wrote:
>> According the libgpod site.
>>
>> "There's also preliminary support for the iPhone and the iPod Touch
>> but they must be jailbroken to work. You'll find more details in the
>> NEWS file."
>>
>> It seems that libgpod requires you to jailbreak your phone.
>> libimobiledevice does not.
>
> That's obsolete information.
>
>> As far as it not being worth the effort, Nautilus and RythemBox both
>> seem to disagree and have implemented support for iphone and ipod
>> touch.
>
> ... for some value of "support". For example, Nautilus just lets you mount
> the "visible" portion of the iphone filesystem using libimobiledevice.
> So this gets us back to the days of early ipods that simply could be treated
> as a kind of glorified USB drive. BTW, current libgpod uses libimobiledevice
> for that purpose, too.
>
> The other half of support needed to manage your music collection on the iphone
> is to read and update the iTunes.db file. For that you (a) have to
> know the firmware
> version of the iphone (because the structure of the iTunes.db varies with it)
> and (b) have re-engineered the correct way to update it.
> AFAIK, libgpod does all that, but the suggestion to create c# bindings for it
> (search the list archives) so that Banshee may use it seems to have
> gotten nowhere.
> And even if someone created these bindings, someone will have to convert
> Banshee's ipod support from libipod/podsleuth to libgpod.
>
> Whining won't get you there, only code will.
>
> Cheers, Roderich
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Re: iPhone Support in Banshee

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On Tue, 2010-05-25 at 20:28 +1200, Daniel Hughes wrote:
> As far as it not being worth the effort, Nautilus and RythemBox both
> seem to disagree and have implemented support for iphone and ipod
> touch.

As these are NOT written in C# they have it somewhat easier, they can
use the libraries straight.
Banshee is a .net application and so HAS to use the C# interface to all
of the system libraries.
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Re: iPhone Support in Banshee

Alan McGovern-2
Revive this topic in a month and see what happens by then.

Alan.

On Tue, May 25, 2010 at 12:41 PM, E.J.M. Hartman
<[hidden email]> wrote:

> On Tue, 2010-05-25 at 20:28 +1200, Daniel Hughes wrote:
>> As far as it not being worth the effort, Nautilus and RythemBox both
>> seem to disagree and have implemented support for iphone and ipod
>> touch.
>
> As these are NOT written in C# they have it somewhat easier, they can
> use the libraries straight.
> Banshee is a .net application and so HAS to use the C# interface to all
> of the system libraries.
> --
> E.J.M. Hartman <[hidden email]>
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Re: iPhone Support in Banshee

Alan McGovern-2
So just to give everyone a heads up, read the five blogposts I wrote
as I worked on banshee for this years Hack Week in Novell. The two
line version is:

If you work with the udev enabled branch of banshee and have all the
required software installed on your system, one simple patch will gain
you libgpod based iDevice support. All required supporting patches
have been upstreamed except for the actual banshee one which will be
upstreamed in a week or two.

Alan

1) http://monotorrent.blogspot.com/2010/06/hackweek-v.html
2) http://monotorrent.blogspot.com/2010/06/hackweek-v-day-1.html
3) http://monotorrent.blogspot.com/2010/06/hackweek-day-ii-attack-of-code.html
4) http://monotorrent.blogspot.com/2010/06/hackweek-day-iii-coffee-shortage.html
5) http://monotorrent.blogspot.com/2010/06/hackwee-day-iv-final-showdown.html


On Tue, May 25, 2010 at 2:07 PM, Alan McGovern <[hidden email]> wrote:

> Revive this topic in a month and see what happens by then.
>
> Alan.
>
> On Tue, May 25, 2010 at 12:41 PM, E.J.M. Hartman
> <[hidden email]> wrote:
>> On Tue, 2010-05-25 at 20:28 +1200, Daniel Hughes wrote:
>>> As far as it not being worth the effort, Nautilus and RythemBox both
>>> seem to disagree and have implemented support for iphone and ipod
>>> touch.
>>
>> As these are NOT written in C# they have it somewhat easier, they can
>> use the libraries straight.
>> Banshee is a .net application and so HAS to use the C# interface to all
>> of the system libraries.
>> --
>> E.J.M. Hartman <[hidden email]>
>> Delft University of Technology, section Computer Engineering
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Re: iPhone Support in Banshee

Gabriel Burt
Great work on this, Alan!  Thanks so much for your work and enthusiasm
- was really fun to watch!

On Sun, Jun 13, 2010 at 11:45 AM, Alan McGovern <[hidden email]> wrote:

> So just to give everyone a heads up, read the five blogposts I wrote
> as I worked on banshee for this years Hack Week in Novell. The two
> line version is:
>
> If you work with the udev enabled branch of banshee and have all the
> required software installed on your system, one simple patch will gain
> you libgpod based iDevice support. All required supporting patches
> have been upstreamed except for the actual banshee one which will be
> upstreamed in a week or two.
>
> Alan
>
> 1) http://monotorrent.blogspot.com/2010/06/hackweek-v.html
> 2) http://monotorrent.blogspot.com/2010/06/hackweek-v-day-1.html
> 3) http://monotorrent.blogspot.com/2010/06/hackweek-day-ii-attack-of-code.html
> 4) http://monotorrent.blogspot.com/2010/06/hackweek-day-iii-coffee-shortage.html
> 5) http://monotorrent.blogspot.com/2010/06/hackwee-day-iv-final-showdown.html
>
>
> On Tue, May 25, 2010 at 2:07 PM, Alan McGovern <[hidden email]> wrote:
>> Revive this topic in a month and see what happens by then.
>>
>> Alan.
>>
>> On Tue, May 25, 2010 at 12:41 PM, E.J.M. Hartman
>> <[hidden email]> wrote:
>>> On Tue, 2010-05-25 at 20:28 +1200, Daniel Hughes wrote:
>>>> As far as it not being worth the effort, Nautilus and RythemBox both
>>>> seem to disagree and have implemented support for iphone and ipod
>>>> touch.
>>>
>>> As these are NOT written in C# they have it somewhat easier, they can
>>> use the libraries straight.
>>> Banshee is a .net application and so HAS to use the C# interface to all
>>> of the system libraries.
>>> --
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>>> Delft University of Technology, section Computer Engineering
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